What defines a “selfie”? It’s just a picture of you taken by you, right? Some believe it’s a millennial way of taking pictures, implying that this type of self-portraiture hasn’t been around for very long. But it turns out, that selfies just might be more than 100 years old.

Recently, Us Weekly discovered what could be the world’s very first selfie when digging through 23,000 prints that were recently added to the Museum of the City of New York’s digital collection. The prints originally belonged to Manhattan photography studio Byron Company, founded in 1892 and still alive today.

One picture, conveniently titled “self portrait,” was taken in 1909, reportedly on the roof of the Marceau Studio on Fifth Avenue by the company’s founder Joseph Byron. Since cameras were still pretty big at the time, Byron needed both his arms in order to take the picture.

Recovered Photo Reveals the 100-Year History of the Selfie

© Byron Company (New York, N.Y.) / Museum of the City of New York. 93.1.4.18

Eleven years later, Byron found himself on the same roof again, but this time with four other photographers. They huddle together for a quick group selfie, as someone else takes a “behind the scenes” shot. Joseph Byron is seen holding the camera with his right hand, and performing arts photographer Ben Falk holds the other side with his right hand.

Recovered Photo Reveals the 100-Year History of the Selfie

© Joseph Byron (1847-1923) and Byron Company (New York, N.Y.) / Museum of the City of New York. 93.1.4.14

Recovered Photo Reveals the 100-Year History of the Selfie

© Byron Company (New York, N.Y.) / Museum of the City of New York. 93.1.4.17

So is this the first actual selfie? Because some say that this 1839 self portrait by Robert Cornelius is the very first one. The amateur chemist from Philadelphia had set his camera up at the back of the family store in Philadelphia and took the image by removing the lens cap, then running into frame where he sat for a minute before covering up the lens again. But unlike Byron, Cornelius wasn’t actually holding the camera—and isn’t that a vital selfie element?

[via Us Weekly]